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FIAT EMPIRE - Why the Federal Reserve Violates the U.S. Constitution
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Акакий
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 posted 6/24/2008 11:10:18 PM
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http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5232639329002339531&q=federal+reserve&ei=HcQ_SI_IIoWyrgKh1eDKCA&hl=en
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Sheriff
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posted 6/25/2008 9:14:23 AM
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Вот ещё:
Federal Reserve, дискуссия на нашем форуме
В данный момент времени практически каждое правительсво имеющее Центральный Банк так оперирует - вся Европа, Англия, Япония, и многие другие. Картель банков - в особенности Ротшильды - имеют ОЧЕНь длинные руки. 
России с этого пример брать нельзя.
Federal Reserve is a Private Cartel on rususa.com
[Message edited by Sheriff on 6/25/2008 11:17:23 AM]
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Sheriff
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posted 6/25/2008 12:29:46 PM
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Excellent video: Money as Debt
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Акакий
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posted 6/26/2008 9:05:11 AM
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yeap, it's awesome video! i'm wondering how they wanna change the system. it looks like next to impossible. they proposed something similar to communism requiring "willing and trustworthy participants". sounds familiar 
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Sheriff
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posted 6/26/2008 9:31:04 AM
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Sure, these commie bastards, he-he...turns out they are actually running this U.S. of A.  
There's an easy way out, but it will require a group of strong people in the government, and a leader with LOTS of balls who is not afraid of being killed. Neither exist, I am afraid.
What needs to be done:
1. Create a bill, and run it through Congress or Supreme Court to declare The Federal Reserve system unconstitutional, effectively shutting down the Debt Creating Monster.
2. Denounce all "debt" owed to Federal Reserve i.e. basically tell bankers to take a hike. They made such an obscene amounts of money already they'll take it, better than being hanged by angry mob.
3. Government must issue new currency or a "new dollar", backed by gold or silver - so that real dollar won't loose too much of its existing value in other countries. Government also MUST report gold/silver reserves on a quarterly basis, just like any other public corporation.
Ain't gonna happen, my friends. So - buy gold or foreign assets if you can, while the party lasts.
[Message edited by Sheriff on 6/26/2008 9:35:06 AM]
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posted 6/26/2008 10:28:12 AM
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yeah, really. Excactly, some extremely honest people who are willing to be killed are necessary for that.
>>Denounce all "debt" owed to Federal Reserve i.e. basically >>>tell bankers to take a hike.
basically to give people for free what's owned by banks(capitalists) now?
Also I wonder without bankers what's gonna happen with all the investments, bonds, stocks, IRA's? A bunch of people will get really pissed except those who have nothing except debt now.
I guess something similar to USSR(including the revolution) is necessary for that. Cool! Now it's Amerika's turn!
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Sheriff
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posted 6/26/2008 11:14:08 AM
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basically to give people for free what's owned by banks(capitalists) now?
no, just what is owed by government to the banks, which is debt and interest on "printed" by The Fed paper (checks, whatever is typed in the computer).
IMHO "national" debt is not the debt by people, it is what The Fed makes politicians accept on our behalf. The Government then makes everyone its slave, forcing us and our children to pay for this stuff. That is gotta stop.
Don't denounce mortgages, of course, this is actions of the people. Banks will still make ridiculously high percentages on these (50%-90% and more, not 6% as they tell everyone else). So they will be alright, a few banks will be bought out or go bust, so what. Japan lived through it recently, and look at these Hondas and Toyotas  
investments, bonds, stocks, IRA's?
bonds will be destroyed, but they will be destroyed by the inflation regardless. it is the worst EVER "investment" as of right now. Right stocks will be alright, like international stocks, stocks of bigger diversified companies, stocks of material miners (gold, silver, iron, etc.). Anything that is paper and an IOU ("I owe you" instead of a real hard asset will be f^%$#ed - even gold and silver ETFs (most of them don't hold much metal themselves).
IRA's - well that's people's problem, not mine.
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Акакий
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posted 6/26/2008 1:07:42 PM
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>>>Right stocks will be alright, like international stocks, >>>stocks of bigger diversified companies,
I do not think a stock is right, only because if it's international
Also i think some "right" stocks might not be right anymore after some "bad" stocks will get f.ucked since they do not give biz to the right companies anymore.
>>IRA's - well that's people's problem, not mine.
yeap, it's the problem I may try get my IRA out of the country Also recently my bank refused to send money overseas. Today I'll try for the third time Last time they said. "We're not sure what you wanna do, but if you send them overseas, you may not see them again."
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posted 6/26/2008 1:24:46 PM
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Fed is like communist party planning commision, they decide what prime interest rate is to be, not market. All the bullshit about "free market" and "capitalism" is just stories that no self respecting intelligent person would ever believe.
Free market = supply vs demand.
Planning system (communism/fascism) = Fed
Fed + national debt + housing crisis + credit crunch + terrorism + Iraq war = collapse of US of A.
Should have voted for Ron Paul!
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posted 6/26/2008 1:40:49 PM
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haha, the elections must be funny again. a bunch of people will vote for Obama because he's black. and a bunch for McCain, because even though they liked Hillary but do not like blacks. Ron Paul is not known anyway. It's like last time they voted for religion/abortion bulshet, now for the race and gender.
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Sheriff
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posted 6/26/2008 8:28:46 PM
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"We're not sure what you wanna do, but if you send them overseas, you may not see them again."
Classic. Should've told them "no it is YOU that will never see them again"
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Акакий
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posted 6/29/2008 4:46:25 PM
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>>>Classic. Should've told them "no it is YOU that will never see them again"
yeap, i guess that's what they realize it does not feel good to have much investments in USA. all the recent gains/earnings hardly cover the dollar loss to euro. that's really ****ed up and it looks like a scam except google
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