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Some translation questions etc.
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Franz
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 posted 9/18/2007 3:23:31 PM
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Hello,
This is my first post here.
I am from Belgium and I started learning Russian. I love the language and the culture.
Could the russians here help me to improve my Russian?
I have a few questions:
How do you say in Russian: - next time
- How was it? It was good.
- Would you like to eat with me tonight?
Could you write it also with English letters, and tell me were to put the accent in the pronounsation?
Last question: For the verb 'to go' , when do you use 'ya xajou' and when do you use 'ya poidou' ?
If there are people who would like to chat with me in Russian to improve it and help me, it would be veryu nice!
Thanks a lot in advance.
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Al_Bundy
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posted 9/19/2007 9:08:08 AM
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- next time (V slEduyuschiy raz)
- How was it? It was good. (Kak Eto bYlo? KharashO!)
- Would you like to eat with me tonight? (PoUzhinaem segOdnya?)
when do you use 'ya xajou' and when do you use 'ya poidou' ?
Capital vowels are under stress.
'ya xajou' = I am comming. I am walking. I am riding. etc.
'ya poidou' = I gotta go. Need to go. etc
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Franz
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posted 9/19/2007 3:19:23 PM
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Thanks a lot!
So you can even say ya xajou chitat.
Or simply ya chitayou, when you want to say I am reading?
[Message edited by Franz on 9/19/2007 3:19:38 PM]
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brad62
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posted 9/19/2007 5:50:12 PM
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Correct. Sort of.
Ya chitaju = I read
Now remember this one.
Ya znaju kak chitat' po-russki
But that's conjugating verbs in the present tense. Like this
chitat' = to read
ya chitaju = I read
ty chitaesh' = you read "familiar"
on chitaet = he reads
my chitaem = we read
vy chitaete = you read. "Again, but polite, formal".
oni chitajut = They read.
But that's just infinitive verbs that belong to first conjugation. I.E. Ending with, at', and yat'
In the second conjugation. Verbs will end with et', and, it'.
But that's true of most verbs. Most verbs, not all. There are many exceptions.
Now here's the tricky part for you and I. Because were not native Russian speakers.
Forming the past tense.
The past tense agrees with the gender of the subject. It is formed by dropping the t' from the infinitive and adding.
Masc. l. Example, On chital +he reads
Fem. la. Ona chitala = She reads
And of course you can't forget there is also, neuter, and plural.
Which would have these endings
Neut. lo
Plur. li
If that's a lot to digest at this point? Don't sweat it. I've been trying to learn Russian now, oh, close to 2 years.Just get a basic course book. The more you read, the more you will retain. Even if you don't understand why the words end like they do. At least you will remember that's how they're suppose to.
Good luck.
P.S. I ended up buying ear buds to listen to my cd's. Just playing them on my computer, or, dvd player. There was too much distraction going on around me.
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Al_Bundy
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posted 9/20/2007 2:50:37 AM
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Oh, my God, Braddy!
You can work as a Russian teacher, most Rusiians do not know these rules!
[Message edited by Al_Bundy on 9/20/2007 2:51:56 AM]
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brad62
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posted 9/20/2007 3:56:01 AM
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Al, don't be to impressed yet. I have a long way to go. I'm not there yet. It's a complicated language
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Franz
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posted 9/20/2007 2:57:52 PM
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Thanks a lot Brad! It makes some things clear. I am now studying Russian for about 6 months, and I really want to speak it and understand it at a nice level. The problem is I do not know Russian people to talk with and to train the language. I new some Ukranian and Moldavian, who speak Russian, but I would like to speak it with a native Russian.
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brad62
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posted 9/22/2007 5:38:05 PM
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Franz, Which books are you reading? Are you listening to cd's?
Do you need more help? How far into this are you?
Do you plan on staying the course?
I also have no one to talk Russian with, now. My friend Misha has gone back to Samara. I helped him with his English this summer.
can you read Cyrillic?
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Franz
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posted 9/23/2007 12:20:58 PM
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I can read cyrillic, but it's still too slow.
I know an ukranian girl, who learns me some new phrases sometimes, and then I note them on a paper like you say it. So, my learning is many focused on speaking and understanding, I do not know much about the grammar f.e.
Unfortunaly, I have nobody to speak with. I am learning by Assimil, and a little book with some dialogues. I also take a look on the internet.
Not really CD's.
I think I have to find a Russian girlfriend  because I really want to learn that language.
[Message edited by Franz on 9/23/2007 12:22:11 PM]
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marusamarusa
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posted 9/25/2007 5:43:55 PM
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next time: v drugo'i raz
how was it? - nu i kak by'lo?
it was good - zdorovo
would you like to eat with me tonight - pou'zhinaem vme'ste?
the stressed vowel is followed by a '
ya hozhu' - i (usually/normally) go/walk
ya poidu' - I will go (simple future tense, or intention to go)
what is your native tongue? I study german and italian.
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marusamarusa
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posted 9/25/2007 5:46:02 PM
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'ya xajou' = I am comming. I am walking. I am riding. etc.
'ya poidou' = I gotta go. Need to go. etc
as a teacher of English I tend to disagree on the free interpretation of the quoted above.
"gotta go" and "need to go" have a definite semantics modality, whereas it is a simple future tense.
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brad62
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posted 9/25/2007 7:36:09 PM
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I think I have to find a Russian girlfriend Wink because I really want to learn that language.
Franzie, don't do that. They're nothing but trouble. They need more attention than normal women.
Trust me, I know of which I'm talking about.
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Franz
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posted 9/26/2007 9:28:15 AM
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Brad: Explain 
You must admit dhey are beautiful...
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brad62
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posted 9/26/2007 10:48:10 AM
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Franz, NO
And yes, they are. Some of them are.
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Franz
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posted 9/28/2007 6:07:49 AM
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Ok Brad, like you want..
I have some new questions: How do you say:
- you called me?
- what do you want to do?
- by haerd
- hand / hands
- I have a question for you...
[Message edited by Franz on 9/28/2007 6:34:39 PM]
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brad62
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posted 9/29/2007 2:08:52 AM
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Franzi, Moj drug
Hand, Roka
I don't know the rest.
I just know it when I speak it
It's hard to say it when ,, Roka also, means the full arm.
Do you know all the parts of the body?
Naprimer?
Arm =ruka
Back =spina
Breast = grut'
ear/ eye = uho/ glaz
face = litso
Should I do more?
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Franz
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posted 9/29/2007 5:53:49 AM
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spacibo!!
Of course you may go on
I also now rot, and noz.
Anyone else who can help me with those other phrases?
Thx a lot.
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brad62
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posted 9/29/2007 11:08:34 AM
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Franzie, my friend.
The thing about this forum. Unless you're trying to put down America. The people here don't really answer back. So you have to ask someone directly.
So you would have to say to. Like, for instance, Al Bundy. Chto znachit eto slovo? kusochek?
It's almost like, you have to open the topic with an invitation to all.
Like, vsjom privet.
If you want? I can send you a few lessons.
But it's Russian to English. It's not Russian to French, or German, or Italian. So how's your English?
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Serega13
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posted 9/29/2007 12:13:57 PM
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Here you go:
- you called me?
vy zvonili mne?
ty zvonil mne? (less formal, referring to male caller)
ty zvonila mne? (less formal, referring to female caller)
- what do you want to do?
Chto ty hochesh delat'?
- by haerd
Don't know what that means...
- hand / hands
Ruka/ruki
- I have a question for you...
U menya est' vopros dlya tebya
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brad62
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posted 9/29/2007 4:53:42 PM
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Franzi buddy. I got the biggest compliment today. I don't know how much you have read in back postings.
But, on my way to work today. " I walk to work " .
Natasya is an older lady that I know. She teaches Russian, " all slavic languages actually " at Harvard.
I met up with her. She also walks everywhere when she comes to this town.
Brad>> Natasya, kak davno ya vas ne videl.
Natashya. Znaju
Brad>> Do, proshli mnovo vraminij.
Brad>> Do you remember the last time we met?
Natashya. Yes
Brad>> I asked you. Chto ty dalesh sagodnya?
Natashya>> I'm driving back to Boston later.
Then I said to her. I know the next phrase to say.
Zhelaju vam priyatno provecti vramya
Natashya>> Brad, you are getting so much better at Russian.
She made me smile 
So we started conversing in Russian. She said to me. In my class at school. After the sixth week. I will only talk in Russian to my students. You are almost there. I might only talk Russian to you now.
So I'm like.. If you do that Natashya? It will be a very one sided conversation.
But I couldn't believe how much I could say to her.
Two years ago she said. I will be very surprised if you ever get past just saying. Kak dela, and, privet.
Now I'm like>> Kagdo ty hochesh nachet?
I still have a long way to go though. But I will plug away at it. I have determination.
[Message edited by brad62 on 9/29/2007 5:55:19 PM]
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