|
To SuperDave
|
Àêàêèé
2436 posts
 author
|
 posted 3/31/2004 12:03:19 PM
 reply
Dave,
I started reading your replies, it was kinda interesting to see your point of view, until I saw this one about Afganistan:
"Americans don't want to control ANY of that filthy contry"
"filthy country"?
What a statament! I'm sorry, but unfortunetely it says it all, and there is no point to prove anything to you anymore. It's a shame and very sad. No wonder why there is so much hostility to those Americans (including current president) who make dumb assumptions on regular basis.
I have no other questions or comments. well another good one:
"Do you play video games?...If you can play this good, it simulates precisely what it's like to actually be in the cock... Get good at this game and you really can fly "
uhhuu...hhh... ok.
|
|
|
Serega13
Moderator
1323 posts
author
|
posted 3/31/2004 2:13:08 PM
reply
Yup, according to Bush and people like Dave, all of the filthy arabs in that filthy country should eiather die or pray allah that Americans only killed a few thousands of them and not everybody.
P.S. I have 4 different flight simulators including Microsoft one that you mentioned. Not only MFS is a shitty shitty parody on distorted reality, but it's also impossible to gain any real flying experience from playing it, you would need real flight simulator inside a real cockpit, and those cost millions of dollars.
Anyway, take it as a personal attack if you wish, but Dave, you are full of shit, my friend. 
|
SuperDave
24 posts
author
|
posted 4/1/2004 11:36:59 PM
reply
YES. Filthy country. Here is why I call Afghanastan, as well as almost every Arab country plus Cuba, China, and Somolia filthy.
In Afghanastan there are no women's right's whatsoever and you know it. Before the US liberated them, AND THAT IS WHAT WE DID, WE LIBERATED THEM, the Taliban controlled most of the country. There was a twisted Islamic Fudamentalist state unlike the world had ever seen. Women were stoned to death in the street for not wearing a burqa. Women were routinely raped and then stoned to death because they just commited adultery. Women were forbidden to see doctors unless they were female BUT FEMALES were not aloud to be doctors. Go figure that one out. There was no free speech, no free press, no free assembly, no elections, and torture and murder were routine. Public executions took place before nearly every sporting event. We know this. It's well documented. And if you had it your way, nearly 20 million women would still be living in this condition. Shame on you, Akakiy. How do you sleep at night? My advice is, stop worrying about pleasing everyone. It's perfectly OK to make a RIGHT or WRONG judgement. Evil exists and when you see it, it's OK to call it bad. I just prefer the word filthy. Is the govornment of Iran evil to you? How about N.Korea? If I said the BOLSHEVIKS were evil, does that make me close minded and insensitive to ther "culture" of mass starvation? Am I wrong for calling it what it is?
The 19 savages that attackes the US on 9/11/2001 Did use the game Flight simulator to learn precisely how to fly Boeing 737, 747, 757, and 767 models. There was an FBI probe and US senate testimony that confirmed all of this. I have since tried it and spoke to several pilots (one from Mexico) and they agree. They say that some REAL pilots use these games as training. Get your head out of your ass and start thinking fot yourself.
Super Dave
|
SuperDave
24 posts
author
|
posted 4/2/2004 1:41:26 AM
reply
Sergei, at no point did I ever say that all Arabs are terrorists. I didn't even imply that. That's what us Americans called an Ad Hominem attack. George Bush has done everything but bend over backwards to NOT kill Arabs. Bush NEVER said or even implied that ALL Arabs or Muslims are terrorists. If we wanted to kill Arabs, we have nukes, which we will probably never use unless this type of force is used against us. War is an ugly business but is sometimes necessary. Some people have to die so others can be free and safe. If it were possible to press a button and have ALL terrorists die instantly without ANY civilian deaths or even damage of property, Bush would press that button as soon as possible.
Look at it this way. Think about how the enemy of the US views us. For instance, we put many of our most important military bases in the unpopulated areas of the US. Why? Because if the enemy were to attack us intelligently, they should hit our military bases first. So we put them away from our population so as to minimize our own civilian casualties. Also, whenever we attack another country, we go after their military and strategic targets first also. The difference is, they (Iraq, Smolia, Afghanastan) frequently put their military targets and hideouts in Mosques and schools, or otherwise heavily populated areas. Why? Because they know that we will try as hard as we can to strike the bad guys only, without killing civilians. The US naturally thinks the enemy will strategically do the same to us, but thet don't. They try to inflict maximum monetary and civilian damage. They are not as "nice at war" as we are to them. We could eradicate every living thing on almost any country tomorrow if we wanted to. If Bush was such a bad person, he would do this, but he doesn't nor would any other American president. In Israel, it's the same thing on a much smaller scale. Israel could eradicate the Palestinians but the don't. The Palestinians don't even try to attack the Israeli military. Instead, they kill civilians intentionally.
It's pretty obvious you hate George Bush. I'm not going to try to convince you with anymore preaching. You're young. When I was your age, I thought that Rebublicans were just for the rich and democrats were for the poor. Then I grew up, became rich and smart and learned the truth. The republicans are for the WORKERS and ACHIEVERS. The democrats are for the LAZY and the IMMORAL. You'll change.
There's an old political saying:
"A republican is a democrat that's been mugged."
Super Dave
|
Àêàêèé
2436 posts
author
|
posted 4/2/2004 3:38:43 PM
reply
Dave,
Today I read this article by Timothy J. Freeman, Professor of Philosophy, The University of Hawaii. It's not what you see on public TV:
http://www.counterpunch.org/freeman09172003.html
also:
http://www.commondreams.org/views02/1008-05.htm
You sound just like Bush - trying to find a suitable justification for the wars. So, is it 9/11, Weapons of mass distruction, terrorists, murder or abuse of women or what? Why did not USA stop Saddam in the 1980's? Simply becasue it had different interests at that time and actually was helping Saddam.
Also we do not know how much truth in those "documents" about those country's filthiness. Of course there must be some truth, but not on an objective level. Remember how Soviet Union was presented to Americans 20 years ago? Lines for bread, babushkas, bears and vodka. This is what a lot(or most) of Americans knew about Soviet Union. I guess now Americans do not know much about other countries either. You know only what the government wants you to know.
Don't you think it sounds really dumb:
This country if filthy, and they abuse women, we are going to free them by bombing everything around. Who cares about the causalties, it could be much worse becasue we got nukes, and we could kill even more if we wanted, so they must be thankful to us that we did not kill them all.
Ther are must be another (economical) reason to spend billons taxpayers' $$$ and thousands of lifes for this kind of quests.
Another excerpt:
As it proved, the conquest of Afghanistan had nothing to do with Osama. He was simply a pretext for replacing the Taliban with a relatively stable government that would allow Union Oil of California to lay its pipeline for the profit of, among others, the Cheney-Bush junta.
http://www.ratical.org/ratville/CAH/EnemyWithin.html
It is obvious that the hypocritical government gives its people some justification for the wars in order to achieve completely different goals - to become richer at the expense of other nations.
[Message edited by Akakiy on 4/2/2004 4:45:58 PM]
|
Serega13
Moderator
1323 posts
author
|
posted 4/2/2004 6:09:55 PM
reply
It's no use, people in this country are dumb sheep, they will believe what they are told and are not able to see the big picture. Of course there are exceptions, but sadly, Dave is not one of them. That being said, I don't see a point in continuing to try and educate this man, let him remain ignorant.
|
Àêàêèé
2436 posts
author
|
posted 4/2/2004 10:25:42 PM
reply
Serega,
It was actually interesting for myself. if not Dave, I would not get into this. In general I'm not inetersted in politics - there are much better things to do.
|
durachok
12 posts
author
|
posted 4/15/2004 9:47:53 AM
reply
SuperDave,
Its unfortunate to see the majority of US citizens utterly brainwashed and you my friend are a shining example of that distinct process. Mr. Bush does not have to say anything but show his total support for the state of Israel no matter what they do or how many Arabs they kill. Israel is given carte blanche to build walls, occupy land, etc. I understand the Jews are now reactionary, and panic stricken after WWII. They are lashing out in fear because of what happened to them during the holocaust. But what they don’t realize is that they are in turn morphing into that exact same element the Nazis were and becoming the oppressor. You know the Soviets suffered the most from WWII but you don’t see them whining and complaining for 50+ years after that horrible invasion by the Nazis.
Do you realize how many Soviets the Nazis murdered? The Russians as a culture are very stoic and tough. They would never complain about it even it was wrong what the Nazis did, and the Jews today even still are taking reparations from the Germans.
There is a lot of tension and pain because of the US backed Israeli policies in the Middle East. Why do you think those Palestinians blow them selves up out of desperation? Its because its all they can do they have no choice. The Israelis have one of the most modern militaries in the world, access to cutting edge military technology from the US. That is why you see when a Palestinian suicide bomber blows himself up the Israelis roll in with Merkva tanks and armored columns crushing those houses down, and killing kids throwing stones. Oh I almost forgot firing rockets from helicopter gun ships. Have you ever looked at the original map of the Jewish and Palestinian division sanctioned by the UN when Israel was recognized? Well try comparing then and now to see how the Jewish settlers encroached very gradually on said Palestinian land.
US citizens are safe from this kind of everyday violence. Its censored and presented in a very antiseptic way so your society feels good and positive about killing. Like you are doing the right thing. It’s a feel good kind of experience for you.
The sad fact is that it is still killing and killing innocents as well for lining the pockets of those US companies like Halliburton with rich valuable Iraqi oil profits. That is why the US places Halliburton in Iraq ahead of any Iraqi decision to rightfully choose who they want to rebuild courtesy of Mr. Cheney former CEO of Halliburton. What happened to being free in Iraq? So who is immoral here?
If Mr. Bush or every member of the Republican Party was so moral then why did they sidestep the UN who said no to invasion? Even when the majority of the world disagreed with the US invasion of Iraq the US like a great big dictatorship just invaded anyway.
Do you think that the whole rest of the world can’t think independently and see what the US is doing in Iraq? Hell even Mexico and Canada disagreed with it!
Do you totally realize what is going on in Iraq now? How many innocents do US bombs kill? Look here for the truth http://www.iraqbodycount.net/
If Mr. Bush was so sincere about terrorism they why did he not go after Iran or North Korea during his axis of evil speech?
Because they can defend themselves just like many other countries like China and Russia can defend themselves with nukes as you say. The USA would think twice and perhaps three times before preempting an
|
durachok
12 posts
author
|
posted 4/15/2004 9:52:57 AM
reply
invasion of those other supposedly “evil” countries.
Mr. Bush’s foreign policies are causing a ramping up of the proliferation of WMD.
When he is queried about any US policy he can’t even reply in an intelligent manner.
He can’t even put together a correct English sentence on the fly without having a series of stuttering brain farts. Well this is what the rest of the planet observes and wonders why the US population would ever elect such a complete dunce as President.
By the way SuperDave do you realize the there are no longer Bolsheviks, or that the U.S.S.R has been over for years?
It’s a sad state to see US citizens so ignorant about history.
durachok
[Message edited by durachok on 4/15/2004 9:53:20 AM]
|
durachok
12 posts
author
|
posted 8/10/2004 3:02:48 PM
reply
Gee Whiz,
I guess that brainwashed Republican who can't even think unless told to do so by FOXnews and CO. vanished into the mist where all of those identical clones will this November.
|
|
|
New Topic
